My Shorts
- Sometimes I have to question Basdeo Panday’s sanity. Speaking at the Felicity Community Centre, Mr. Panday said, “days of the bounty hunter are at hand”. Mr. Panday didn’t mean new legislation mind you, he meant illegal bounty hunting. Saying that it was time for businessmen to protect themselves, they should get together and set up a fund of $20 million called the fund the ‘Fund for Self-Protection’. The fund should be used to “let the kidnappers know that if they kidnap or kill one of our families, the fund will be used to hunt them down until they are caught, no matter how long it will take”.
He added:
“The time has come when we must seek our own protection, we must begin the process of protecting ourselves and since we cannot do it ourselves we must pay for that protection. These killers are doing what they do because they believe they can do it with impunity and get away with it.
“We must let them know that they cannot kidnap or murder our family and get away with it. They must be made to understand that if they interfere with your family they will pay one way or another.”
Is this not a crime? Like this man forget he out on bail or what?
And then he has the audacity to call Winston Dookeran “Duck and Run”. Speaking on a UNC platform he said, “he (Mr. Dookeran) is a harmless, useless duck. You ever see a duck fight? Chicken does fight. Duck doh fight.” Well le me say this: I will eat duck over jailbird any day of the week.
- And creating an even bigger circus of stupidity, here comes attorney-at-law Surendranath Capildeo to say that the prosecution of Panday was a continuation of the victimisation of the local East Indian people. The statement is stupid enough on it’s own, but when you take into account that it was made on the opening night of Divali Nagar - a religious festival - you have to understand why I am a little more than ticked off. How dat reach there? I don’t understand. Talk bout Divali nah, even say you wished the Government poured more money into it. But how he reach there?
In addition to this, Mr. Capildeo told the audience he had pledged a sum of $25,000 to a treasure chest set up to provide funds for the defence lawyers “so that (Basdeo) Panday will not go back to jail”.
First of all Basdeo Panday committed a crime. He had over $10m in a foreign bank account that he did not declare to the integrity committee. Some public officials have yet to declare their assets which is just as criminal, however Mr. Panday isn’t absolved through the actions of others. In the eyes of the Law, he tief. The funds in the account will be seized as they are assumed to be obtained through illegal means. By no means is Basdeo Panday an innocent man, despite all those who would like to paint him to be the next Gandhi.
Secondly, why would Surendranath Capildeo assume that all Hindus and for that matter all Indians are supporters of Basdeo Panday or even think of him as innocent? There are Indians and Hindus who believe just as whole-heartedly that Basdeo Panday should be jailed. This is part of what’s wrong with Trinidad - the assumption that all must believe as you believe just because you share the same physical attributes. To stand there on the opening night of Divali Nagar, an occasion that has no political ties whatsoever and espouse a belief that you assume your listeners share is a huge disservice to people and their intellects. And as easy as this “leaders” in society clamp down on independent thought and enforce the tribal vote.
- On the other hand I fully blame Mr. Dookeran for the Budget Debate debacle. Mr. Dookeran is not a rookie by no stretch of the imagination. He should know better than that and he should have been prepared. Mr. Manning is not going to grant any favours to anyone and Dooks should not expect him to. The country lost because the Congress of the People couldn’t get their act together in Parliament and in so doing made the PNM look much better than we all know they are.
I’m glad though that Dooks has accepted responsibility for the debacle. At least he’s a man about it.
- But what trouble is this? Mr. Patrick Manning warning Dooks about corrupt members in his Party? This is the same man who had Eric Williams and Franklin Khan as Ministers in his Cabinet. The same Williams and Khan who now facing the court on bribery charges? You would think that the Government cabinet white as snow. But where these people does come out from boy? Manning alleging corruption. Well yes, I’ve seen it all. And why he so concerned about Dooks? All of a sudden Manning talking about Dooks in his budget wrap up, he talking about Dooks in the PNM 50th anniversary convention. Like Dooks keeping him up at night? If I were Winston Dookeran, I’d feel very special.
38 Responses to “My Shorts”
By Hottie Hottie on Oct 16, 2006 | Reply
AH BOY! Post in meh pweffen! Siiiiigh. Well Mani, yuh make meh nearly spit out meh tea and muffin all over meh monitor with the notion of Dooks keeping Manning up at night. I don’t know if the double entendre was intentional but it funny like hell boy. I too prefer duck to jailbird. I feel Panday missing the lil treatment he was getting in jail so he itching to go back. Either that or he get tie up and feel he was addressing a crowd a sugar cane workers who trying to get Caroni to subsidise the cost of changing the handles on they brushing cutlass. By the way, guess what I wearing today? Jamette looking fishnets and red stilettos. I thought of you. I say to mehself if Mani could only see meh foot now he go be running he mouth from now till :/)
By Mani on Oct 16, 2006 | Reply
What double entendre? I didn’t intend to make one, lol. Panday forget he a few appeals away from Jail yes. Oh gosh yuh wearing the jammette-looking fishnets and the stilettos? Oh gosh. lol. Like ah go have to start a watercooler discussion about yuh.
By Alexia on Oct 16, 2006 | Reply
Only in Trini…What next? Somebondy need to shut, (cough shootcough)these people. Panday need to give it up. Bounty hunters (Panday like u watching to much american reality shows) is now all hell will break loose cause now d gang bangers go make this they new trade of business and Manning…Lawd I do not have the words to describe this idiot, fool, uneducated, dumbo, big head, four eyes, stupid excuse for a PM. He talking about Dooks corrupution…before he get up off his ass and do some thing about the crime (then again as hottie say he in business with them) and he should be the last one talking about corruption.
I was waiting until I get my Masters to come run for PM but I might have to come sooner.
What u think Mani?
By Anonymous on Oct 17, 2006 | Reply
tee hee… Mani’s shorts .. hee hee
Did u see Bas’ ‘genie wine’ ad in the paper??
By but u serious on Oct 17, 2006 | Reply
all u can’t be serious. more kirk megihoo out there.Panday had 1 million in his account that he did declare. I support the call he made about protecting ourselves because the government not doing it. I will say this all u can’t be serious.
By but u serious on Oct 17, 2006 | Reply
Dookeran— all ur serious. That man is a joke with a bunch of jokers trying to be a political party.
By Hottie Hottie on Oct 17, 2006 | Reply
What genie wine ad is that? Post it fuh meh nah somebody, please? Panday doing the genie wine?! Where he learn that, in jail?
By Bagogyul on Oct 17, 2006 | Reply
sometimes when i read the papers on the internet about Panday…..i’m like he and Bush were separated at birth…..
Like ah DUh!
By Anonymous on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
what you expect to get from bias newspapers. The man was the best prime minster t&t ever had. during his stewardship progress in t&t was being realized, but these things are not mentioned in the newspaper only what PNM & COP witch doctors want.He ran the country with $9 a barrel for oil the same price that the NAR [i.e PNM budget have oil prices at $48 per barrel] had and did not raise taxes, made tertiary education more accessable. But still people will go and bash the man even though he has clearly done more in 5years than any body else. Today in the political horizon we have Manning who clueless about running the country and a 60years old dookeran talking about new politics. God help us.
By Hottie Hottie on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
Anon 11.47 and 11.50, since I suspect you to be the same person, you need to READ before you open your mouth and talk - or rather open your hand and type. I bad talk Panday when he does his sh!t and I bad talk Manning when he does his - which is almost all the time. Don’t pretend to assume my political affiliation or even that I have any. Your posting does that change the fact that Panday broke the law - the same law he promised to uphold when he was sworn in as PM - and is being punished for it. I have never denied the good things done by any administration and certainly not the UNC. Try and READ other posts before you jump in and comment. You’ve done your party no favours by displaying your ignorance here. I don’t see how my mother came into this DISCUSSION. Whatever private tutorship arrangement Panday and your mother might have does not mean the same extends to everybody else’s mother. You nasty nemakaram.
By Hottie Hottie on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
And for the love of GOD, when yuh posting them thing and especially when yuh want to be attacking people mother, PUT YUH MUDDERASS NAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Hottie Hottie on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
And too besides, the progess and leadership of this country is something that affects everyone, regardless of political affiliation, ethnicity, social status or gender. Since it affects all of us it is a right of each of us to express our opinion and to indulge in a little “fatigue” is we so desire. Discussion and analysis is the only way we can identify the errors made in the past and so avoid repeating them in the future. Kind of like what your mother did after you were born. Next time, think before you bring your chookoor in here eh. And you is still a nasty nemakaram.
By Hottie Hottie on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
Mani, I think you better start moderating your comments eh, especially since yuh doh be checking yuh blog often.
By anon/is/an/ass on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
Anon that statement was out of place and doesn’t change the fact that your beloved Panday is the only Prime Minister to have gone to jail. Or even to have been accused of a crime. Twice. Why you don’t go and ask your mother. By the way, this is my first time on your blog Manicou. Nice but plenty drama. I agree with Hottie - you should moderate.
By Hottie Hottie on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
Aye aye! Yuh remove yuh comment! So anybody reading this go be wondering what I talking about. Nice. Real nice.
By Hottie Hottie on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
Mani, why isn’t there a message saying the comment was removed? Like I have to stop visiting your blog yes boy. I eh ABLE! Trinis real changing boy. Nobody appreciates the fine art of fatigue anymore.
By Mani on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
Alexia - Gyul, whenever yuh want to come and place yuh name on a ballot, I will vote for yuh, lol. Because we really in mess. I figure we could probably go for a woman Prime Minister about now anyway.
Spice - What genie wine is that gyul? And does it involve numerous shots of Puncheon?
but u serious - Who do you suggest we vote for? Basdeo “Jailbird” Panday or Patrick “Aloof, Arrogant, Waste we Money” Manning? Because if you ask me, I’ll pass on the convict and the out-of-touch man and go for the guy who deserves a chance. That is what’s wrong with Trinidad, allyuh does take chain-up from politicians. You want me to leave my house and go stand up in line to vote for Panday? If you’re not part of the solution you are part of the problem, and I’m not going to be part of the problem. I won’t do it to Trinidad. Not for people who who don’t deserve a second chance - at least not right now.
And let me tell you something about this bounty hunting thing you are championng. You think Trinidad is in chaos now? Well wait till some busines men start illegaly bounty hunting. We have a justice system for a reason. There are checks and balances to make sure it is fair (granted it’s not always) and that the right people get charged and tried and the wrong people are freed. But when citizens start sharing money to what will turn out to be underworld figures to find kidnappers, who’s going to happen to those checks and balances?
Just because Panday says it doesn’t make it true. Why allyuh so? Allyuh so need to love Trinidad more than you love your party.
Bagogyul - Oh gorm, doh bad talk Bush like that. True he started an unethical war from which thousands have died, but I’m sure he’s still a good man.
Anon 11.47 and 11.50 - Anon 11.47 and 11.50 you are part of the problem. What you’ve said I’ve heard 1000 times before. Let me ask you something. If you hired a man to paint your house and he did a great job and finished in record time, but at the end of it all you realized he stole your valuables, would you rehire him the next time your house needed painting? I’m guessing no. Or let me ask you this. Your sister goes out on a date with rich man. He takes her to all the nicest places, buys her an expensive dinner, brings her expensive jewelry, but during the date he gets mad at something she says and he slaps her. Would you suggest she go out with him again?
I don’t care what Mr. Panday did for the country. I’m a patriot. For me it’s Trinidad first. Screw political parties and screw Dooks too if he messes up. But I won’t support a criminal.
Don’t be blind my friend. Don’t fall for the “well at least he” talk.
Hottie - Sorry I did remove it without thinking. I chose to delete forever, which is probably why there is no note saying it was deleted. Well I think people know you well enough t know you won’t speech off someone for no reason. But just for the record people, Anon did say that Panday learnt the genie wine from Hottie’s mother.
Yeah sometimes I don’t see my blog again till the next morning. I thought about comment moderation, but especially since I don’t see it till the next day I didn’t want to do it. I want the discussion to flow and unfold and I think if I decide to moderate the comments the discussion might suffer.
But don’t take on the blind supporters nah. Them is a set ah little chirren incapable of any deep discussion. When their parents leave them home with the internet and their V-Tech computer, they does figure they is big people and start coming on the big people sites. Forgive him/her.
Hottie, yuh mad or what, you want to stop commenting? Look doh let meh come there wherever you is eh. Doh study them!
anon/is/an/ass - Thanks for your compliments, but as I explained to Hottie I won’t think about comment moderation just yet.
By Hottie Hottie on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
Mani boy, I feeling like you’s we fadder and yuh hadd come in an intervene in fight and ting! Sigh. I have one stinking headache today and I feeling fo cake. How you be?
By Mani on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
lol, no Patos is we fadder. Yuh forget? Gyul, I feel we link, I wake up with the nastiest headache I’ve had in a long while. I feel like my left temple is about to split into two. Freaky. I not feeling for cake though, lol.
By Hottie Hottie on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
LOL! We dey (fingers moving back and forth between we forehead). Missing home like hell today. Have a restaurant by me does sell a wicked carrot cake. Like is coke they frosting that thing with!
By Alexia on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
What ah morning…Saucy name mention in ppl meeting…hottie being attact by anon..Mani have to bring it under control..Like is ah full moon in Trinidad today or what?
To all the bloggers who go out of their way to bring their forum to us keep it up. Freedom of speech is a given right.
By Alexia on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
BTW Mani I seriously thinking about running for PM in the next 10 years, but for now I think I will have to be Dooks campaing manager. My father had me ROFL last night he said Dooks need a good tailor (apprently he suits don’t fit right) so ah told my father maybe he need a good PR manager.
So what you all think if we know we do not want PNM & UNC in power and it only looking like Dooks may make a difference wld u vote for him if he can deliver?
We can take a page from P’Diddy book and do that vote or die theme for elections.
By Hottie Hottie on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
Girl, I eh think I able with following anything from P Diddy nah! But I in anything allyuh in. Allyuh is good folks.
By Anonymous on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
To hottie hottie i want to appologize my comment about your mother. My comment was out of place, I should has just keep that one for myself.
Yes mani I agree with your statement above [if you hired a man to paint your house and he did a great job and finished in record time, but at the end of it all you realized he stole your valuables, would you rehire him the next time your house needed painting? I’m guessing no], but to say that Panday was robbing the country blind is not true. What is happening today are our lives better than it was when Panday them was robbing the country blind. What I am saying is that I would put the lesser of two evils or sorry the lesser of three evils which is the UNC back to government.
By Anonymous on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
To alexia, dont be fooled by Mr. Dookeran. His party is built on a lie. He lied to the supporters of the UNC. New Politics is another political propoganda statement.I dont base this on hear say or mimic the words of his detractors. How can a man lead this country when he couldn’t lead a party with a few people people with difference in opinions. How can you lead a diverse country with people who is going to have difference of opinions. What will he do if he is in the pilot seat and his team mates choice not to follow blindly, will he jump ship to pilot another aircraft.
By but u serious on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
Mani I hope your comment comfort the family of Riaz Khan and everybody who were affected by a serious crime. I know it does not comfort me a victim as well.
[And let me tell you something about this bounty hunting thing you are championng. You think Trinidad is in chaos now? Well wait till some busines men start illegaly bounty hunting. We have a justice system for a reason. There are checks and balances to make sure it is fair (granted it’s not always) and that the right people get charged and tried and the wrong people are freed. But when citizens start sharing money to what will turn out to be underworld figures to find kidnappers, who’s going to happen to those checks and balances?
Just because Panday says it doesn’t make it true. Why allyuh so? Allyuh so need to love Trinidad more than you love your party.]
Please dont comment on my love for Trinidad and Tobago. You dont know me, because I may seem to have a political affilation does not make me love Trinidad any less than you or any body else. What have you done to contribute, having a web site is not enough, come out meet the real people stand with us in Chattam, come to Barrackpore as see what a community can do with very little, see the poverty in the Betham and the line in Marabella. When I support a political party I look at the leader, the members of that team and what they have done. I supported the NAR as a young teenager, I supported the PNM when I first voted, I supported the UNC in the 2000 general election because what they have done during their reign. I would support Dookeran and his team but they are not focus in helping Trinidad in any way. How could support people that will try to destroy a team because they views maybe different. Nobody says that Panday is a god, but we can say that he is no longer the political leader of the UNC and with charges for not declaring his bank account makes him not able to run for parliment hope that makes you happy.
By Alexia on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
Anon 4:06.. give me an insight on his lies, what did he lie about give me some info..I believe he left the party b/c of the corruption within the UNC, I also believe that many ppl have their opinions, some make sence, some don’t. From my understanding it came down to ethics, and moral values. They may preach of change (they meaning UNC) but the change might not have been in the right direction. Ppl move on for the better. And I think this is why he moved on. I rather try some one new than vote back in what we have now and had b4.
With change comes a future, hopefully a brighter and better one. And if that person is not Dooks well so be it. I do hope that there is someone out there that can captain the ship.
butuserious..please clue me in how is Dooks not serious in helping Trinidad, what did he say or do that make u feel this way?
By Hottie Hottie on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
Mani, I trying to delete meh posts responding to anon posts since everybody kiss and make up. Whey de dustbin and dem gone?
By Mani on Oct 18, 2006 | Reply
First of al, allyuh Anons, please choose a name. It’s get difficult when I have 5 or 6 anons commenting on one post. You don’t have to have a blog, but please choose a name.
Hottie - Move away from the cake….don’t lose that shape, lol.
Alexia - Gyul, at least he dressing better than he used to yes. Before the man used to dress in some old shirts dey, oh gosh. Plus he would sweat a lot and wear no undershirt, so yuh know what happening there?
Anon 3:41 & 4:06 - You appear to be the same person. Forgive me if you’re not. I didn’t say he robbed us blind, but I think he did rob us. And if I put someone into government who ended up stealing from the treasury, I would think that I made a big mistake and I will refuse to ever put them there again. I don’t care what else they did. But that’s just me.
Now you say that Mr. Dookeran lied to the UNC supporters. This is something I’ve heard over and over and I’m yet to hear how exactly it was that he lied. Do you believe Mr. and Mrs. Panday when they say that the money in the account was a gift from Mr. Duprey? Do you believe Wade Mark when he stood up in Parliament and said that Joan Yuille-Williams and a member of her staff, Phillipa Richards, were co-signatories to a $2 million slush fund in her ministry? Because these all sound like lies to me. Do you really want to get the lie-tally going? Do you even remember the Gerald Yetming/Vasant Bharath fiasco? If you don’t, ask me and I’ll tell you.
Let me ask you something I asked another blogger once. How would you feel if you were hired as the CEO of a company then on your first day you go to find you desk was shoved into the basement. None of the other co-workers would talk to you. The board members snub you and turn the other way when they see you coming. They hold secret meetings and decide amongst themselves you were a terrible choice for the job. Against your wishes they rehire the guy that was responsible for the company’s financial trouble. They subsequently they fire you. How would you feel?
It’s not just that they had a differing of opinions. The executive didn’t want him there. Do you know why? It’s because he didn’t support a certain individual at his trial and also because he didn’t support the re-entry of another individual. That’s all.
So all this talk about how Dooks couldn’t lead people with differing views, I don’t buy it at all. I don’t care if you’re Gandhi, Martin Luther King or Hitler; you just can’t lead people that don’t want to be lead.
but u serious - What comment are you referring to? Do you mean when I said that bounty-hunting will lead to chaos? If that’s it, my comment isn’t meant to comfort anyone. It’s a sad thing that has happened to Riaz, and I could only imagine what his family is going through. But whether you want to admit it or not this is bigger than just the Khan family. Look, if you ask me for a knee-jerk, emotionally-fuelled response to kidnappers and murderers, I’d say set the bounty hunters on them and bring them back dead or alive - preferably dead. But if you want a more sensible response I’d tell you that illegal bounty hunting will send Trinidad into chaos. Think of all the things that could and will go wrong. I can’t understand why you won’t see that.
Maybe you do love Trinidad and it may be wrong of me to assume that you love a political party more than you love your country. I acknowledge that what I’m about to say may sound very bad, however I don’t apologise for it. In the face of all that has happened in the PNM and UNC, when someone tells me they’d willingly give either another chance (instead of someone new), I just can’t help but think that they really can’t be all that objective. Have you ever heard that saying, “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”? I’m sorry, but I won’t be fooled again.
“How could support people that will try to destroy a team because they views maybe different.” Destroy is a pretty strong word. First of all you need to say how Dooks tried to destroy the team. Second of all, see what I wrote to Anon.
“What have you done to contribute, having a web site is not enough…” I’m going to be honest with you. I really don’t know how to respond to this. Do you ask everyone this or just the people with differing opinions and websites? Is there something wrong with me having a blog? Did I say somewhere that this is my entire contribution to this country? My website is just a place for me to put my thoughts. This isn’t meant to save Trinidad. And how do you assume that I haven’t marched in Chatham? Do you know what I look like? Do I wear a Manicou Report t-shirt when I go out? So where do you get off assuming what I have and have not done?
I agree with Alexia when she says you should show how Dooks is not serious in helping Trinidad. You can’t just say something like that without giving proof.
“Nobody says that Panday is a god, but we can say that he is no longer the political leader of the UNC and with charges for not declaring his bank account makes him not able to run for parliment hope that makes you happy.” You hope what makes me happy? I don’t even know what you’re trying to say.
By Mani on Oct 19, 2006 | Reply
Hottie, ah not sure nah…try refreshing the page or signing out then signing in again.
By Alexia on Oct 19, 2006 | Reply
Mani I need ah favor anyway of getting a telephone # to reach Dooks team…boy ah dead serious..ah tired talking about we need change so i might as well do s/thing. Ah going & start the rally/campaign to fight for trinidad future…and hopefully ah could rope u & hottie and anybody else who think they will vote for Dooks and fight for a brighter future.
Leh me know nah….it go be fun…ah done start to write everything needed, but look how ah putting d cart b4 the horse, i ani’t even talk to the man as yet! but ah have a gift ah could see into the future..LOL
By but u serious on Oct 19, 2006 | Reply
What else do you suggest for the crime situation. I agree with the suggestion that Panday made for a fast response to curb the crime situation.
Now you say that Mr. Dookeran lied to the UNC supporters. This is something I’ve heard over and over and I’m yet to hear how exactly it was that he lied. Do you believe Mr. and Mrs. Panday when they say that the money in the account was a gift from Mr. Duprey?…….. What are you saying that Duprey went to court and lied. Duprey is now one the COP financers.
Do you believe Wade Mark when he stood up in Parliament and said that Joan Yuille-Williams and a member of her staff, Phillipa Richards, were co-signatories to a $2 million slush fund in her ministry?……. No comment because I dont know. But Mrs. Yuille-Williams is the link between PNM and the Jammat al Muslimeen.
Do you really want to get the lie-tally going? Do you even remember the Gerald Yetming/Vasant Bharath fiasco?……I am not a member the group that counts UNC election vote. Were you their when the votes were counted, I wasn’t. So all we have to go on he say she say.
Now lets talk about Mr.Dookeran
[I believe he left the party b/c of the corruption within the UNC, I also believe that many ppl have their opinions, some make sence, some don’t. From my understanding it came down to ethics, and moral values. They may preach of change (they meaning UNC) but the change might not have been in the right direction. Ppl move on for the better. And I think this is why he moved on. I rather try some one new than vote back in what we have now and had b4.]
He was the Governor of the Central Bank when the UNC was in office, for five years of UNC corruption what did he say NOTHING. When the PNM kick him to the curb where did he go, back to same corrupt UNC [There were other platforms, Ramesh Maharaj on his anti-corruption campagin Team Unity], what is moral and ethical about that. Convict Panday signed his nonmination for leader of the UNC asking no one to oppose him. He supported a team that lost. Who knows maybe some of them didn’t like the sight of him.
[How would you feel if you were hired as the CEO of a company then on your first day you go to find you desk was shoved into the basement. None of the other co-workers would talk to you. The board members snub you and turn the other way when they see you coming. They hold secret meetings and decide amongst themselves you were a terrible choice for the job. Against your wishes they rehire the guy that was responsible for the company’s financial trouble. They subsequently they fire you. How would you feel?] I have heard this from Dookeran supoorters. I have seen situations where managers take over of departments with the situation worst and was able turn the situation around. The COP members that was causing the division within the UNC, their were ones that was running to the press trying humiliate and belittle the other members of the executives and thats a fact. How about the black caucus that running the UNC, but thats New Politics with old Politicans. I can go on but I’m sleepy wait for my next post.
Oh for alexia I dont have Dookerans phone number but you can try this winstondookeran@gmail.com
By Mani on Oct 23, 2006 | Reply
But u serious, I’m saying that I don’t believe for one second that Duprey gave money to help with the Panday daughters’ education and Bas didn’t know anything about it. So as parents they are worried about how to find the funds to educate their daughters, Godfather Duprey come along and gives Oma $10m and she is so relieved and so happy that for at least she says nothing? Not even to tell Bas, yeah doh worry about the funds, I have it covered? I don’t buy it.
Well I don’t know if there is a link between Mrs Williams and the Jammat, and I don’t suggest you make allegations you can’t prove. But that wasn’t my point. My point is that if you really want to find some liars,look at the UNC and at Wade Mark, not COP.
Because Dooks was Central Bank Govenor doesn’t make him privy to all the corruption that was going on inside the UNC, does it?
So let me ask you something. You just admitted that the UNC had 5 years of corruption. Yet I can’t understand why you you would so willingly and openly support them again. I want you to answer one question for me. Compare all that the UNC has done to what Dooks has done and tell me why Dooks is a worse choice than the UNC.
Come on man. Is it really the COP members that were responsible for running the UNC into the ground? Look let’s talk about Gerald Yetming. Do you remember the voting fiasco that had him replaced? He was first told that he won the election, then he was told, wait, they found a “bag of votes” that weren’t counted. Where did these votes come from, no one knows. Someone just found a bag of votes that no one ever knew existed, no one supervised, and Bas decieded that it should be counted which resulted in Yetming losing the election and Vasant Bharath being made DPL. Could Yetming challenge it? No, because Bas said no recounts. Was COP behind that? If by “causing the division” you mean they were leaning away from a dictortarial style and towards free and fair elections, then they are guilty as charged. I think that if they did to me what they did to Yetming, I’d be a bitter man too and I’d have no qualms about goint to the press. They stole the election, can’t you see that?
And what about the “black caucas”? What’s your point?
By but u serious on Oct 26, 2006 | Reply
And what about the “black caucas”? What’s your point?- Same nastiness new clothing.
So let me ask you something. You just admitted that the UNC had 5 years of corruption. Yet I can’t understand why you you would so willingly and openly support them again. I want you to answer one question for me. Compare all that the UNC has done to what Dooks has done and tell me why Dooks is a worse choice than the UNC.– Name a place where theirs no corruption and I will summit that Dookeran may have balls. Panday did not attack the problem strongly.
UNC —- Dookeran
1)Built School 1)MOP in the NAR government.
2)Built Police Stations 2)Hulassie kick him out of parliment in 1991.
3)EHS 3)Governor of the Central Bank under the corrupt UNC.
4)Dollar for Dollar 4)Leader of the UNC, which he could not lead because he
5)Improved Health Care the cabal [black cacus too] was preventing him from.
6)Better Roads 5)……Hold on WHAT HE REALLY DO. Mani help me out.
etc…….
By but u serious on Oct 26, 2006 | Reply
Look let’s talk about Gerald Yetming. Do you remember the voting fiasco that had him replaced? He was first told that he won the election, then he was told, wait, they found a “bag of votes” that weren’t counted. Where did these votes come from, no one knows. Someone just found a bag of votes that no one ever knew existed, no one supervised, and Bas decieded that it should be counted which resulted in Yetming losing the election and Vasant Bharath being made DPL. Could Yetming challenge it? No, because Bas said no recounts. Was COP behind that? If by “causing the division” you mean they were leaning away from a dictortarial style and towards free and fair elections, then they are guilty as charged. I think that if they did to me what they did to Yetming, I’d be a bitter man too and I’d have no qualms about goint to the press. They stole the election, can’t you see that?
He say she say, I not fighting that.
Yetming was up for vice chairman not DLP. When Panday was in the NAR Yetming was the one to move the motion to kick him out. Being a shallow man(dictortarial style), Panday he gives Yetming a safe seat an the Ministry of Finance. So he bitter he should be thankful.
By Mani on Oct 26, 2006 | Reply
but u serious - What is the black caucas and why are they bad? Don’t just give short remarks, say what you want to say.
Name a place where theirs no corruption and I will summit that Dookeran may have balls. Panday did not attack the problem strongly. What are u saying here? Panday did not attack which problem strongly enough?
No don’t misunderstand me, when I said compaure the UNC to Dooks, I didn’t mean accomplishments. How are you going to compare the UNC who has been in power to Dooks who hasn’t yet (well “power” as in “Government”). I want you to compare all the bad things that have happened in the UNC with all the bad things that Dooks has done and tell me why Dooks is a worse choice than the UNC. And further tell me why he doesn’t deserve a chance.
And of course you label the voting fiasco as he say/she say because you don’t want to address it. Why am I not surprised? So Yetming got Panday thrown out of the UNC, so what? What does that have to do with anything?
By but u serious on Oct 27, 2006 | Reply
And of course you label the voting fiasco as he say/she say because you don’t want to address it. Why am I not surprised? —- How could I comment when I am not even sure what went on. What you want me do just be a sycophant and walk blindly in a confortation and defend on something im not sure about. Please dude. Yetming is not someone I will go out of my way to even bother about.
So Yetming got Panday thrown out of the UNC, so what? What does that have to do with anything?—- If you bite the hand that give something, what will you do with people that didn’t like you. A little bit a loyalty and discipline, could go a long way.
By Mani on Oct 27, 2006 | Reply
but u serious - you know you are not fooling me. You wrote above that Duprey gave money to other Government Ministers, Mrs. Yuille-Williams is the link between PNM and the Jammat al Muslimeen, COP members were causing the division within the UNC - all I’m sure without any evidence, but you balk at talking about the UNC internal elections and Yetming because that’s he say/she say? I’m not asking you to speculate more than you already have am I?
By the way I realize you pick and choose which of my questons you will answer. I asked you about the black caucas: no answer; I asked you to compare Dooks’ faults to the UNC’s, no answer. So again, please address this black caucas that you speak of and tell me why Dooks is a worse choice, in light of all the trouble in the UNC.